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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby baht habit on Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:19 pm

heartofdavid wrote:The images are alright but I find them devoid of any emotion.


Yes, it almost comes across as a promotional tool created for two disparate products... to make consumers aware of the release of this new compilation and also some sort of publicity for the art of Kristamas Klousch, and yet no common relationship is created to link them together aesthetically. I assume that Ms Klousch would be grateful for this introduction to those of us in Sylvian's fan base who most likely would have not been previously aware of her work. And maybe a positive would be that those who are admirers of hers will now be introduced to Sylvian's work. But I don't actually grasp any bond between the two. And that could just be a lack of comprehension on my part.
As for Sylvian putting a spotlight on the track "Sleepwalkers", I can't quite express the enthusiasm which I am experiencing, now that he is finally giving the proper amount of exposure to this astounding song. It impressed me three years ago and remains equally intriguing to this day...from the unique drumming and mallet percussion by Brandlmayr which forms the basis of the track --- as well as the swelling electronic embellishments contributed by Matsubara and Nakamura --- to those riveting lyrics that Sylvian was compelled to write.
I felt a slight sense of disappointment when it appeared as though this kickass track was destined to drift off into obscurity, due to limited release in 2007. And yet now, such a prominent position being given to the song sort of bolsters my personal assessment of its quality and it seems that it will be put in its proper place... rather than merely existing as some track included as an additional bonus to a tour book.
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby heartofdavid on Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:36 pm

baht habit wrote:
heartofdavid wrote:The images are alright but I find them devoid of any emotion.


Yes, it almost comes across as a promotional tool created for two disparate products... to make consumers aware of the release of this new compilation and also some sort of publicity for the art of Kristamas Klousch, and yet no common relationship is created to link them together aesthetically...But I don't actually grasp any bond between the two. And that could just be a lack of comprehension on my part.

I feel the same way. It is like the striking images often used in magazine advertising, particularly fashion, which catch the eye but don't lodge in the brain, so to speak. And if those images do create an impression, they don't correlate to the product - remember the pose but not the clothes, don't recall what the advertisement was actually about.

baht habit wrote:I felt a slight sense of disappointment when it appeared as though this kickass track was destined to drift off into obscurity, due to limited release in 2007. And yet now, such a prominent position being given to the song sort of bolsters my personal assessment of its quality and it seems that it will be put in its proper place... rather than merely existing as some track included as an additional bonus to a tour book.

Yes, I agree the track was more deserving of attention, glad to see it get its place. I'd also like to see other orphaned tracks find a home (and a proper recording), maybe some day in the future.
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby ScottR on Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:58 pm

I'm not sure "kickass" is the description I would use. That makes me think of bands like Dokken or the Scorpions. :)

Sleepwalker is just slightly better than the manafon dirge. I cant stand listening to jazz vibes and this track does nothing to change my opinion of that. I do like the drum work though. I think I will pass on this release for now and download a few individual tracks of interest.
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby baht habit on Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:24 pm

ScottR wrote:I'm not sure "kickass" is the description I would use. That makes me think of bands like Dokken or the Scorpions. :)


Indeed, totally understood. For if the description "kickass" conjures up memories of groups such as a Dokken or Scorpions for a person, then I would imagine that they would not use "kickass" to describe Sleepwalkers.
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby acolq2001 on Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:30 pm

you can hear a snippet of this track on davidslvian.com. it sounds interesting 06. Five lines (with Dai Fujikura/ previously unreleased
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby baht habit on Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:53 am

David Sylvian - Sleepwalkers ****
Jude Clarke OMH

Post-Japan, David Sylvian has produced a consistently evolving and increasingly intense series of solo albums, in particular over the last decade. Culminating in 2009's profound, stark and troubling Manafon, these intimate releases have run parallel to Sylvian's simultaneous collaborative work, with a wide and eclectic range of musicians and artists.
Sleepwalkers is compilation of some of the most significant of these collaborations from the '00s. It features reworkings of previously released material (some radically changed, some merely tweaked), outtakes from earlier albums, and one brand new work. It also represents, in Sylvian's own words, the "more playful side" of his body of work.
So, for those whose experiences of his music to date have come from the two previous albums - Blemish and Manafon - there is a lightness of touch and optimism of mood found here that will seem revelatory. Money For All and Ballad Of A Deadman, the latter featuring Joan Wasser and Sylvian's brother Steve Jansen, are both accessible, tuneful and animated. World Citizen - I Won't Be Disappointed, meanwhile, sings of "break the indifference", while Sylvian even claims to be "optimistically inclined" in the otherwise fairly bleak break-up song The Day The Earth Stole Heaven.
There is also a fresh earthiness to the work of this artist who has often in the past seemed not quite "of this world". A couple of tracks are peppered with some choice profanities: opener Sleepwalkers ("you f*cking sleepwalkers") and Angels, where the "f*ck you" is spoken, almost exhaled with a quiet menace. In Thermal he has produced a sensual, sexual and intimate rumination on his lover's body that is both upfront and erotic.
Of course, all is not sweetness and light, even on this playful side-piece. Anger runs through tracks like Sleepwalkers and Angels, while Playground Matters has a nostalgic and sorrowful tone, and Exit/Delete tells a stark and tragic tale of what appears to be "Caroline"'s (drug-induced?) death, poignantly, heartbreakingly asking: "How can it be as quiet as this / This close to the edge?" Several songs also seem to allude to relationship break-ups or breakdown - The Day The Earth Stole Heaven, Exit/Delete and Wonderful World.
This last, created with Nine Horses, is one of the standout album tracks. It's a gloriously tuneful and mellifluous take on pessimism, the accompanying female vocals somehow managing to be simultaneously emotionless yet expressive. Also marvellous are the collaboration with long-time ally Ryuichi Sakamoto, World Citizen, and the mellow, brass-inflected The Day The Earth Stole Heaven. Trauma, closing the album, is its most atmospheric track, an outtake from album-before-last Blemish that features a throbbing, resonating, pulsing backing punctuated by harsh noises such as spiralling wails, deep drones and near-shrieks.
Perhaps the most "difficult" track on the album, in terms of the challenge it presents to the casual listener, is the previously unreleased Five Lines - the first product of the current working partnership between Sylvian and Japanese classical composer Dai Fujikura. This is one of those tracks that seems crammed so full of ideas that it struggles to hang together thematically, lyrically or musically, so tightly has it been packed.
Positioning itself in a niche somewhere between the avant-garde and the more esoteric brand of pop music, this album would serve as a great "way in" to the work of Sylvian and, indeed, his musical partners. Thoughtful, considered, sombre yet still capable of surprising, it is surely set to be recognised as one of 2010's more cerebral listening pleasures.
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby heartofdavid on Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:39 pm

Thanks for posting that review, baht habit. Like what she says about "Five Lines", makes me more eager to hear it than I was before. An interesting and easily made interpretation of "Thermal", considering that David says it is a love poem to his daughter Isobel.
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby baht habit on Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:27 am

It seems that Samadhi Sound is getting those pre-orders out very quickly. I received a message that the copy I had ordered has already shipped out two days ago, when I would have been expecting it not to go out until the release date of the 27th.

And did anyone else notice that the Samadhi Sound site highlighted the conclusion of the OMH review?

"Thoughtful, considered, sombre yet still capable of surprising, it is surely set to be recognised as one of 2010's more cerebral listening pleasures."

I wouldn't claim to know how most other fans feel regarding that, but I actually tend to personally believe those particular descriptions such as 'thoughtful', 'considered', 'sombre yet still capable of surprising' and 'cerebral listening pleasures' could be appropriate descriptions for any Sylvian release. :-)
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby digimarsh on Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:08 pm

i noticed today that on amazon uk ,sleepwalkers is listed at number 41 ( i think ) in the top 100 album sellers in music,which was quite a pleasant suprise, its available for pre order naturally ,so assume this satistic is based on pre sales, encouraging i would venture to suggest
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby heartofdavid on Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:14 pm

baht habit wrote:It seems that Samadhi Sound is getting those pre-orders out very quickly. I received a message that the copy I had ordered has already shipped out two days ago, when I would have been expecting it not to go out until the release date of the 27th.

I got the message it was shipped on Tuesday. The actual CD arrived today.

To my mind, "Five Lines" alone makes this compilation worth getting, definitely worth the wait and price of admission.
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby missouriman on Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:22 pm

To my mind, "Five Lines" alone makes this compilation worth getting, definitely worth the wait and price of admission.

Got mine today. 5 days to Missouri from CA. What a wonderful effort. The retouched songs do sound more better different. The new song is great. I want more like it. The art work is an eye opener. Nekid butts and boobs. I sense a different impulse at work here than the one on Manafon. This beast is alive at last.
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby dconnery1966 on Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:15 pm

I take it some of you guys now have the sleepwalker's album lucky sod's 8)
Got an e-mail from the site on tuesday there, said it had been dispatched,so hope to
get it within the next few days :?
all the best Dougie :D
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby javier on Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:44 am

Must admit to being rather underwhelmed with the whole thing. I got it today, the "remixing" is hardly evident - there seems to be a slightly different level between instruments on some tracks compared to the originals, but absolutely nothing one could consider as making a track feel new or fresher.

Five Lines?
Kind of like the Rabbit Skinner but with strings instead of guitar - one of those tracks for which I'll hit the skip button. Certainly nothing to get me remotely excited.

If like me you were rather hoping for something a bit new - for example rhythms added to World Citizen like Steve played on the last tour, you'll be sorely disappointed.

Don't misunderstand me, there are some wonderful tracks here, but (with the single unremarkable exception) it's all been heard before. It's interesting to hear as a compilation as it definitely has a dark edgy overall mood, but there's precious little to open up any new inspiration.
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby baht habit on Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:46 pm

heartofdavid wrote:To my mind, "Five Lines" alone makes this compilation worth getting, definitely worth the wait and price of admission.


I agree to a certain extent. The only negative aspect that I could humbly put forth is that the exquisite musical passage which we hear within the duration 1:49-2:15 does not occur at any other point in the song. Not that I require something representing a unifying chorus for every piece of music that I enjoy listening to, but in my opinion that possibility would have been a benefit to the track in this instance. It would have also lengthened this impressive piece, and that would have been nice since it passes by much too quickly in my opinion. This is simply a delicious foretaste of the future and I always want to devour more. :-)
I am not sure why, but something that surprised me the most during the initial listen were the references to foxes and a stag in the forest. This immediately conjured up the images that have been prevalent on the Samadhi Sound site, not to mention the artistic cover of Manafon. And I hadn't expected that while listening to the few samples previously provided. Though actually it does seem somewhat appropriate since we have learned that Sylvian and Fujikura have new material which will be presented alongside reworked variations on material from Manafon.

As for the comp itself, I am not personally sure if it works all that well as a unified whole. I get the entire gist of making such collaborations available in one place and that is an honorable effort on Sylvian's part. And it is a compilation and such products seldom hold up artistically. But I would have to honestly agree with any one else who happens to find these particular Nine Horses and Slope tracks to be a befuddling inclusion.
And even though I would have preferred to listen to a modified version of Exit Delete where Steve Jansen or any other worthy percussionist would replace the anemic drumming on the track, at least Sylvian had the courtesy to correctly alter that most cringe inducing mishit by Masakatsu which occurs nearly 2 minutes in.
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Re: Sleepwalkers

Postby darkerbird on Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:05 am

My copy arrived today (I pre-ordered from Amazon UK). I went straight to Five Lines. The opening melody "Five Lines" is the same as the "Half-life" from 'Snow White....'. It seems to reference "Somewhere" from West Side Story too "....we'll set a place". Lyrically it seems closest to 'The Rabbit Skinner'. The snippet available on the website comes halfway through the track and is a truly glorious moment.The string arrangement is wonderful and at times very beautiful.Yet while it is great to hear new compositions, I feel that the improv style of writing means he seems to be working from a limited melodic palette.I Don't mean to sound disparaging, I like it!!I love Manafon, but have we reached the bottom of the barrel?
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